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Old 03-23-2012, 09:20 AM   #1
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all of season 3.... all I see Duncan was season 2
where has he vanished??

is there some sort of contract condition with John Oliver?
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Old 03-23-2012, 05:36 PM   #2
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I think it's probably mostly just scheduling issues.
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:46 AM   #3
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:53 AM   #4
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They have said he won't appear in season 3
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:54 AM   #5
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That's awesome, Johan. I didn't even notice that myself in the four times I've watched the episode so far.
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:15 AM   #6
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The credits go to reddit where I stumbled upon it...

I miss Duncan, he was a real life professor of the sort that wanders around universities. Very intelligent, disappointed and cynical.
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i noticed duncan's dissapearance long time ago, I wonder why though...

he's much more of a comedian but yes he is clever since he graduated english from Cambridge
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Old 03-26-2012, 06:26 AM   #9
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He's a Big Comedian, he probably has othercomittments.

Which amazes me how Chevy has been able to appear in all 61 episodes to date
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Wouldn't you have thought it should have said PROFESSOR Ian Duncan

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Old 03-26-2012, 05:56 PM   #11
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One of 'my' better scenes is when Duncan is starting to teach as a nice girl enters the classroom and asks whether it is some kind of specialistic medical course. (don't remember the episode nor the course). He asks with a conspiring look to the class if they want to play along. Later on it appears that they indeed have been taught the whole lesson about the medical issue.

It shows in a funny way that the students go to Greendale only to get a grade. They please the teacher, knowing that he now cannot fail them anymore. Learning and knowledge is a non-issue. Diorama's.
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Old 03-26-2012, 06:47 PM   #12
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One of 'my' better scenes is when Duncan is starting to teach as a nice girl enters the classroom and asks whether it is some kind of specialistic medical course. (don't remember the episode nor the course). He asks with a conspiring look to the class if they want to play along. Later on it appears that they indeed have been taught the whole lesson about the medical issue.

It shows in a funny way that the students go to Greendale only to get a grade. They please the teacher, knowing that he now cannot fail them anymore. Learning and knowledge is a non-issue. Diorama's.
It was anasthesiology and that was awesome.
It's kind of the running gag of the show, that community colleges provide a poorer education than at a university, and it's true to some extent.

Community colleges tend to be smaller and have lower tuition rates and focus on more practical coursework like welding, nursing, stonemasonry, etc. And It's why I'll probably go to community colleges for life.

Universities are much larger and are more expensive but are mandatory for people seeking a 4 year degree or more. A lot of comedy writers are university educated at liberal arts focused universities, and so a lot of times community colleges are looked at as "lower"

but I'll take Greendale Community College over Brown anyday.

Does education work like that in Holland or is it like France where it's "one shot, one kill" with their education programs?
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It was anasthesiology and that was awesome.
It's kind of the running gag of the show, that community colleges provide a poorer education than at a university, and it's true to some extent.

Community colleges tend to be smaller and have lower tuition rates and focus on more practical coursework like welding, nursing, stonemasonry, etc. And It's why I'll probably go to community colleges for life.

Universities are much larger and are more expensive but are mandatory for people seeking a 4 year degree or more. A lot of comedy writers are university educated at liberal arts focused universities, and so a lot of times community colleges are looked at as "lower"

but I'll take Greendale Community College over Brown anyday.

Does education work like that in Holland or is it like France where it's "one shot, one kill" with their education programs?
Thx again. Anesthesiology, do you as connaisseur also know which episode?

Out of curiosity I googled a bit. Holland and the Dutch education system is anglofying, we are more English than German oriented than Germany, albeit we are neighbours and speak a similar language. The WW II is for a large deal responsible in this.

Greendale seems more of a liberal arts college than a community college? wiki says that after a 2 year community college you can go to a 4 year liberal arts or a university. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_college Anyway, it's called Greendale Community College.

Wiki states that in Holland we also have a Liberal arts college and accidentally in the city where I live, I pass it regularly. In the Wiki the education is rated as excellent, but it is certainly of lower standard than Universities, of which one also is setttled in Utrecht.

We have since approx 2000 taken over the American system of Bachelor and Master. A Master title can only be achieved from university. Bachelor can be reached from this Liberal Arts thing, from HBO (higher job education) and some other institutes. Some of this institutes have a bad reputation and are reprimanded for letting students through with really bad papers, which is caused by the system where institutes are rewarded for number of students and % succeeding.

In general I would say that the educational level is still higher in Holland than in the States, but that the gap is narrowing. The Greendale phenomenon is not strange too us...
Probably in Germany and France the standards are higher, and even probably they are old fashioned and not adjusting to new times.

Brown??

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Old 03-26-2012, 11:22 PM   #14
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I've already found it. The psychology of letting go. Indeed an awesome episode, very well constructed. The oil spots in the basin versus the vaporizing mrs Pierce. Death as recurring motive as well as the lust for the female gender with Annie (who wore a backbrace and is therefor excused) and Britta and the breasted girl who was looking for anesthesiology. 'You go with it'. A long time ago for the US watchers of course, October 2010.

It would do reasonably well as an introduction episode, not so much inside jokes.
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Isn't that also the episode where Oliver discovers he has a "Magical force field"?
I could be wrong.

By "Brown" I was referring to Brown University, it's a university that a lot of people refer to in slang as a "Liberal Arts College" where people go to get their degrees in writing and move on to write television. It's not the only University that produces television writers, but it's a prominent one.

Does Holland have a smaller, cheaper 2 year college or are all the schools larger 4 year programs?

When I was asking about France as a comparison, I was thinking about something I had heard from a third party about how if you fail out of school in France you can never go back and get your degree, and apparently you can't get multiple degrees.

Here in the States, you can Fail out, come back, get three degrees, and if you fail a class you can re-take the class and replace your old grade. For instance, I failed out in 1996, and came back in 2010 and got my associates in liberal arts while going to school to get in associates in automotive technology, now I'm using my Liberal Arts associates to transfer in to a major university for Pre law while I also get my automotive technology degree at the community college.

It's a bit of a lengthy life story, but I was just curious if you guys had a "community college" in Holland, I didn't mean to ask if you guys had crappy schools... I was wondering if you guys had smaller post high school schools with shorter terms that specialized in trades like Emergency Medical Techs or Air Conditioning.

More specifically, I was wondering if the joke that a community college was inferior to a larger university was one of those jokes that didn't translate well overseas.
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More specifically, I was wondering if the joke that a community college was inferior to a larger university was one of those jokes that didn't translate well overseas.
No no... it is universally recognised that universities are better than colleges anywhere in the world.
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I believe the situation is not so different in Holland as in the States, and that US is used as model. You have specific studies like optometry which I s'pose don't take longer than two years. And when you switch to another school you can get free points for courses you have done and are similar to ones given.

Duncan has indeed his magical force field and drives Chang out of the classroom and the canteen. In the End Chang takes a picture of Ollie and the two oily co-eds. That I had to look up: In American culture, the term "coed" is also widely used as a generic slang term to describe a college female in particular, often in tandem with them being fetishized in some way; for instance, a phrase like "sexy coeds" would normally be assumed to refer to attractive college-aged women specifically.
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